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Tue, Dec. 21st, 2010, 08:19 pm
Killing with a sheet of paper.

 The hopeless nature of the TSA quest to forbid weapons may be illustrated with a simple sheet of typing paper.  Take a sheet out of your printer. Roll it up into a cone with a point on one end and a 2-3" wide base. Hold the wide base in your hand and (carefully) jab something with the pointy end.

The cylindrical body of your new paper "dagger" is fairly resistant to sideways pressure, while the point can do real damage if directed against soft tissues. The strength of a single paper sheet is limited, so two or three may be used for a stronger construction. A manila envelope would be stronger yet, as the two sides are connected and the paper is thicker.

A plastic binder would be stronger yet. If a material isn't pliable enough for rolling up, folding it into a three or four sides pyramid would work as well. The flared base end would act as a pommel, keeping the hand from slipping from the impact of a stabbing motion.

A sheet of paper can be a weapon. A terrorist can use it, as can a counter-terrorist. As long as TSA is focusing on weapons, they are missing the real weapons -- the human brains. ANYTHING can be turned into an offensive weaponized tool. Unfortunately, very few tools can be improvised be defenders quickly enough to make a difference. TSA policies are further stacking the deck in favor of hijackers.

Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 02:33 am (UTC)

To say nothing of the common ball point pen...

Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 03:49 am (UTC)

grosse point blank :)


Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 03:21 am (UTC)
Scott Johnson

I can remember having a similar discussion with a co-worker when I first became a gun owner. A "what if there were no guns" thing.

We worked in an auto parts store. He walked over to a display of open-end/box-end wrenches, selected one about 24 inches long and raised it up like a club. Then he picked up a socket sized between a golf ball and baseball and hefted as one would right before making a throw.

End of discussion.

Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 03:50 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Many weapons are where you find them.

Shoe laces make a garott. Three d cell batteries in a strong sock make a good sap. Cross pens, titanium knitting needles (TSA legal) small padlock on laptop cable. Triangular file slid into the edge of you laptop case. A walking cane. Hairspray and a lighter. Para cord key lanyard and fifteen keys. My personal favorite, two chrome plated high polished 3/4 inch SAE fine thread nuts and a bandana through the holes. One smack with that in the side of the head and he's blowing bubbles in his cocoa forever.

Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 12:21 pm (UTC)
maineshark: Re: Many weapons are where you find them.

Does the nuts have to be fine thread? What if all that's available is coarse? :)

Sun, Dec. 26th, 2010 03:06 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: Many weapons are where you find them.

But, but, all I have is metric!

Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 03:51 am (UTC)

don't forget completely unarmed killing. proper training and mindset, and well, bad guys can just kill away. no weapons except themselves. how many martial arts movies have we seen?

improvised weapons? a flight with first class? wine bottles? silverware? crockery? hello? yah.

just wait until someone weaponizes babies! oh yeah!


Wed, Dec. 22nd, 2010 04:55 am (UTC)

Security wouldn't let me take a small pocket knife into the courtroom for a traffic offense, but had no problems with my METAL CLIPBOARD. I've had some local cops tell me they won't check inside someone's wallet anymore because a lot of people have taken to sharpening the edge of a credit card to use as a weapon... Being unarmed is a state of mind. And thinking you can ban weapons is a sign of insanity.

Thu, Dec. 23rd, 2010 05:22 am (UTC)


in the movie "lethal weapon" the TSA thinks that the lethal weapon really is the Beretta M92=)))

Thu, Dec. 23rd, 2010 12:34 pm (UTC)
staghounds: They will sell you

a big bottle of highly flammable Jack Daniels in the duty free AFTER you go through security. Or if you prefer, a few small ones in flight.

Actually I'm rather surprised this hasn't been done.

We already have to remove our shoes and pour water before entry- ever been to a mosque?

The prohibition of alcohol would be an excellent further Islamicization of commercial flight.

I have always thought that ETOH and flight were a stupid mix anyway.