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Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014, 11:21 am
Quality control

Originally published at VolkStudio Blog. You can comment here or there.

It would be nice to have some. Of the guns I worked with this year, perhaps 40% either arrived non-functional or partly functional, or failed within fifty rounds. While that’s skewed by the high percentage of prototypes I encounter, enough of the production guns are unusable to make me wonder. I am becoming a big fan of bayonet mounts for rifles and backup pistols.

On the plus side, certain companies consistently make guns that work. I suspect their QC process is organized to work on numerous stages and not just at the test firing before shipping. Conversely, I don’t see how some guns ever made it out of the door — they couldn’t even be loaded, much less fired! With the cost of each transaction in time and money, sending things back and forth isn’t the answer. And breakage during a defensive situation would be even more of a problem.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 05:10 pm (UTC)
seadevil001

It would be pointless to ask for names, I guess. Well, pity to us!

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 05:14 pm (UTC)
olegvolk

Usually, functional guns get reviewed and non-functional are just sent back. A lot of what I get are pre-production guns for prop use, so it's not reasonable to complain. Others are the result of very bad QC (and sometimes equally bad followup). One review of a rather non-functional pistol is coming up in print in January with all the details.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 05:17 pm (UTC)
olegvolk

I will note some examples:

All vz58 variants I've used work. Same for all Vepr rifles and shotguns. And all Glocks.

But I recently had a .22 revolver which fired only six of its nine chambers due to mis-cut star on the back of the cylinder. How did that ever get through the QC process?

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 05:21 pm (UTC)
seadevil001

This is good. Would love to learn more on this topic.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 11:25 pm (UTC)
riki

По-моему странно отправлять на тестирование непроверенный образец. Ведь предсерийку всегда можно настроить и заставить нормально работать. Ну а в серийном производстве всегда встречаются бракованные экземпляры.

Моя выборка куда меньше Вашей, Олег, но из трёх ИЖей, одного вепря, одного турка и пары Таурусов (говорю про оружие, которым владел) косяки вылезли только у Тауруса. Плохая сверловка камор в барабане.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 11:27 pm (UTC)
olegvolk

Рогатые, мне кажется, на качество кладут без оглядки...

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 11:38 pm (UTC)
riki

Мне теперь тоже. Поэтому и отказался от покупки их дробовика. Куплю БУ МЦ-255 дороже в полтора раза, зато не буду бояться.

Интересно, что качество Ижмеха довольно приличное, несмотря на ругань в интернете. У моей МР-153 на 10000 выстрелов два неперезаряда и те на некачественной партии самодельных патронов. Ну а Вепрь вообще ни разу не подводил.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 11:40 pm (UTC)
olegvolk

Вепрь, кроме дебильного предохранителя, мне кажется идеальным дробовиком. Хорошая кучность с пулей, низкая отдача.

Wed, Oct. 29th, 2014 11:56 pm (UTC)
riki

Про дебильность предохранителя не соглашусь, удобно отщёлкивать основанием указательного пальца. Не то что АК-саёжный.

А нет. Сходил ещё раз пощупал. На охоте и на стрельбище я в перчатках. Голой рукой неприятно, режет сустав. Но всё равно очень быстро можно им работать.

А отдача у такого тяжёлого оружия высокой и быть не должна. Мой кстати из магазина перезаряжался спортингом 28 граммов и 26-граммовой Geco Coated Competition Slug. Последнюю очень рекомендую, брал такой оленя. Очень точная и мягкая по отдаче пуля на среднего зверя и на тренировки.

Thu, Oct. 30th, 2014 02:53 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Quality Control

I've been saying this for some time. Quality Control for ammunition and firearms of US made products has dropped while they continue to increase the prices. Same for everything else made in this country, homes, cars, appliances.

As a rule, I try to avoid American made products. I've zero issues with Austrian, German, Russian, Czech, Italian, Philippines firearms.

A few Eastern block countries are hit or miss and as for American made firearms. With the exception of Colt and Dan Wesson, "Made in America" should serve as a warning label.

Thu, Oct. 30th, 2014 02:54 am (UTC)
olegvolk: Re: Quality Control

Conversely, I've had issues with guns from all countries. Maybe it's a matter of having a larger sample size.

Thu, Oct. 30th, 2014 03:03 am (UTC)
(Anonymous): Re: Quality Control

You simply must give us a little more information.....we all have baited breath. You work with a lot of firearms so we are all legitimately curious now :)

I have a large collection but I'm curious what issues you've wrong across in your experience.