Oleg Volk ([info]olegvolk) wrote,
@ 2009-07-03 12:05:00
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Sub2000 carbine, folded





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[info]hisamishness
2009-07-03 05:19 pm UTC (link)
I so need to get one of these and jury-rig a green laser on one side of the barrel/handguard and a white light on the other.

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Re: I don't think that link is correct
[info]olegvolk
2009-07-03 05:57 pm UTC (link)
Was a typo: http://ktog.org

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Jury rigged laser?
(Anonymous)
2009-07-07 02:47 am UTC (link)
No jury-rig required. Kel-Tec CNC will sell you a Picatinny Rail to go on your Sub-2000 if you want to go all Tommy Tacky with it. It has fine open sights from the factory though (ghost-ring rear, firesight-style front), and if you are going to spend money, fix the horrible, stagy, 12# trigger first, then buy the travel case ($25), then buy some Scherer magazines (if you own one of the Glock-charged Sub-2000s).

After that, like the musician says, practice, man, practice.

Rivrdog

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Re: Jury rigged laser?
[info]hisamishness
2009-07-07 03:14 am UTC (link)
Can't put a decent optic on it and still fold it, so side mounted laser/light pairing it is.

12# trigger eh? Sounds like it will be a fun DIY project.

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[info]kneil_bob
2009-07-03 06:31 pm UTC (link)
I always assumed that it had a seperate chamber the didn't fold (for better feeding) and wondered how they made sure it wouldn't fire while folded, but now I see that the chamber folds with barrel. Instead they appear to have seperated the feed ramp from the chamber (1911style). A very elegant solution that probably tosses the round at your feet if you work the action while it is folded.

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[info]neutrino_cannon
2009-07-04 04:00 am UTC (link)
Depends. Sometimes the extractor can just barely hang on to it.

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(Anonymous)
2009-07-03 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Is that a charging handle sticking down from mid stock?

Advertising work for KT? Well, it's working. :-)

--"lnf"

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[info]borisdabastid
2009-07-04 01:41 pm UTC (link)
strangely, after seeing this carbine close up, I've gone from "maybe" to "nope". It seems kind of thrown together, although I'm sure it is well made, but I just can't get past the "pipes and plastic". Maybe if I shot one I'd change my mind...

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[info]olegvolk
2009-07-04 01:51 pm UTC (link)
That's how it was for my model Erika. She went from "it's a prop" to "I'd like this...could I re-design it for variable length of pull while keeping the foldablitiy?"

Plastic on Kel-tec rifles other than RFB looks plain. Metal finish is excellent. What I like is that they use common ammunition, they work reliably and weigh little. I used to like long, heavy rifle. Now that I carry a camera with long, heavy lenses, a tripod, a pistol, bottle of water and other such junk, heavy rifle isn't what I want. SU16 gets heavy enough once a sight and a muffler are added -- Sig556 starts out heavy.

Sub2000 does look like a collection of pipes. Outside of the receiver, so does Colt 635 SMG. The straight-line stock with some bolt over-travel means little felt recoil or muzzle rise. Basically, you pay your money (not very much in case of KT) and take your set of features.

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(Anonymous)
2009-07-06 03:02 pm UTC (link)
I bought one (in 9 mm) used. I find your recoil comment odd as I have been looking at buying foam to throw on the back and top of the stock. I find Mosin Nagants more fun to shoot. The Sub2000 seems to tear at the shoulder and bust up my cheekbone. So I have to ask, am I doing something wrong?

Also when shooting left handed I get powder spray back in my face; worse than any AR type I've ever used.

Clint

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[info]olegvolk
2009-07-06 03:13 pm UTC (link)
Change your recoil spring. That is not normal behavior.


Recoil on mine is more brisk than on an MP5 but less than with Hi-POint carbine or Colt 635 SMG.

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(Anonymous)
2009-07-06 12:58 am UTC (link)
What's street price on one of those toys tools?

--"lnf"

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[info]olegvolk
2009-07-06 01:00 am UTC (link)
http://www.impactguns.com/store/640832002218.html

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(Anonymous)
2009-07-07 11:49 am UTC (link)
This little thing really appeals to me.
THAT's what a PDW is supposed to look like. It even comes in a grown up pistol caliber (not these varmint calibers like 4.6x30 or 5.7x28). The magazine-catch and safety are within reach of the strong hand and the two hands meet for reloading. In a world of magazine-incompatability somebody actually listened.
I miss a bolt-catch.
And all that for $330? I'd buy it for 406€ instead of the $406 MSRP KelTec recommends on their homepage!
I'm not suprised that there still is no Glock-carbine. It first would have to beat this.

T.Stahl

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[info]olegvolk
2009-07-07 01:47 pm UTC (link)
Bolt catch is manual, it's a slot int he charging handle channel.

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