Oleg Volk ([info]olegvolk) wrote,
@ 2007-04-16 15:32:00
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[info]badkalla
2007-04-16 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Right on.

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[info]dd_b
2007-04-16 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Although the vast majority of college students are under 21. Yeah, I'd favor changing that age limit to 18, or removing it entirely, too.

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(no subject) - [info]radarrider, 2007-04-16 09:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-16 09:51 pm UTC

[info]ilcylic
2007-04-16 08:41 pm UTC (link)
Damn. That's spot on.

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[info]sam_newberry
2007-04-16 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Гораздо сильнее, чем первый вариант. Очень... шокирует. В хорошем смысле слова "бьет по восприятию".

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(no subject) - [info]leon_85, 2007-04-16 08:57 pm UTC
It's either too early or too late for this...
(Anonymous)
2007-04-16 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Either way, your timing is off.

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Re: It's either too early or too late for this... - [info]darthzeth, 2007-04-16 10:56 pm UTC

[info]dd_b
2007-04-16 09:19 pm UTC (link)
Further thinking -- if you change the second text to "would have helped *make* them safe", you aren't left claiming that a law change definitely would have helped (it's permissible rhetorical overstatement IMHO, but still best avoided IMHO), and the "helped" is echoing the phrasing of Hincker's statement, so it actually *increases* the rhetorical focus on "feel" vs. "make" which is the main point of this poster.

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[info]igorilla
2007-04-16 09:22 pm UTC (link)
Убивает не оружие, убивают люди

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[info]christeos_pir
2007-04-16 09:26 pm UTC (link)
Suggest making the second line "...made them be safe."

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(no subject) - [info]mzmadmike, 2007-04-17 02:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]christeos_pir, 2007-04-17 03:10 am UTC

[info]niteshad
2007-04-16 10:53 pm UTC (link)
Today's events were tragic, and I agree with Oleg and others that a gun in the hand of one of the good guys on the scene might have mitigated the death toll.

What doesn't exactly add up for me was the time-line of events. At 7:30am, this guy shoots up a dorm and kills several people. Then the students all go to class, and he's given two hours to wander around campus and find the Engineering classrooms where he shoots still more people. Then the school goes into crisis mode, locks down all of the buildings, cancels classes and tells everyone to stay inside because there's a gunman on the loose.

Why wasn't all of that done at 7:30-8:00am in the morning. The tragedy of the first shooting was unforseeable; however, the second shooting might have been avoided by prompt action on the part of the University Administration.

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(no subject) - [info]heypete, 2007-04-17 12:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]niteshad, 2007-04-17 01:32 am UTC

[info]blueingenue
2007-04-17 12:01 am UTC (link)
Today, students don't feel safe.
Some students feel shot.
Some no longer feel anything at all.

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Are you ok? - [info]retiqlum, 2007-04-17 08:48 am UTC
Re: Are you ok? - [info]blueingenue, 2007-04-17 12:39 pm UTC

[info]slamonella
2007-04-17 12:47 am UTC (link)
Oleg, I love ya, but the mere ability to carry firearms doesn't make anyone safe. If anything, the last line should read "would have given them a chance to protect themselves."

The message needs to get out, but it has to be the right message and it needs to be the truth. Otherwise we just end up looking like deluded, right wing looneys.

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Here's that opportunity...
(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 01:06 am UTC (link)
For years, we've speculated about the ability to hold accountable those in authority who have made it unlikely, if not impossible, to defend oneself in such a situation.

By decreeing that certain methods of self-defense [as if they aren't inherently the purview of the individual!?!] are unacceptable, the "authorities" at Virginia Tech guaranteed a "gun-free" campus!

Helpless faculty, staff and students in the face of an onslaught by an armed man who ***knew*** that he would be facing only ***unarmed*** victims was the result!

In this case, the track record couldn't be clearer...and I predict the first of many lawsuits, civil ***and*** criminal, will be filed before the month closes.

Bravo! I want to see careers destroyed, fortunes forfeited, authorities bankrupted, university assets distributed to the parents, siblings, children and other parties of murdered individuals who died because they were forced to follow an outrageous violation of the most basic human right...that to survive using any means necessary in self-defense.

Set your watches now...

...Alex

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Re: Here's that opportunity... - [info]oldcurlywolf, 2007-04-18 03:52 am UTC
Re: Here's that opportunity... - (Anonymous), 2007-04-20 01:29 am UTC
Just so you know
(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 01:40 am UTC (link)
You're an asshole. I hope you rot in hell for making a political issue out of a tragedy. Fuck you and the second ammendment. It is my sincerest wish that you become terminally ill.

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Re: Just so you know - [info]tomcatshanger, 2007-04-17 01:59 am UTC
Just so you know
(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 01:42 am UTC (link)
You're an asshole. I hope you rot in hell for making a political issue out of a tragedy. Fuck you and your propaganda. The shooter used two 9MM SIDEARM WEAPONS to kill 33 people (33 people whom you don't really give two shits about). It is my sincerest wish that you become terminally ill very soon and suffer to death.

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Re: Just so you know - [info]sinanju, 2007-04-17 01:51 am UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]mzmadmike, 2007-04-17 03:08 am UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]mzmadmike, 2007-04-17 02:52 am UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]gomeza, 2007-04-17 04:38 pm UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]oldcurlywolf, 2007-04-17 03:01 am UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]gomeza, 2007-04-17 04:43 pm UTC
Re: Just so you know - [info]outlier1985, 2007-04-17 03:02 am UTC
Re: Just so you know you upped the ante... - [info]retiqlum, 2007-04-17 08:37 am UTC
Re: Just so you know you upped the ante... - [info]gomeza, 2007-04-17 04:44 pm UTC

[info]2percentright
2007-04-17 02:14 am UTC (link)
Oh hell yeah, Volk. You just went up several points on the awesomeness flowchart for this poster.

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Sad...
(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 02:28 am UTC (link)
Wow. Way to make a national tragedy into a platform for your political opinion.
The blood spatter is very classy too, adds a lot of taste.

Why don't you put some burning children on there too, "being christian would have saved them from Hitler"

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Re: Sad... - [info]mzmadmike, 2007-04-17 02:56 am UTC
Re: Sad... - [info]oldcurlywolf, 2007-04-17 03:02 am UTC
Re: Sad... - (Anonymous), 2007-04-17 04:18 pm UTC

[info]mzmadmike
2007-04-17 02:57 am UTC (link)
"Could have made them safe" is the cleanest, easiest wrap up.

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[info]ann_totusek
2007-04-17 03:00 am UTC (link)
Thank you Oleg.

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(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 03:28 am UTC (link)
Since possibility of confrontation would have deterred the shooter right?
WRONG!

It was a murder-suicide. He ended up dead. He knew what the end result was going to be: either he killed himself or police killed him.
Do you think that knowing that other students had guns and the fear of death would have scared him off?
I think not.
Yeah it might have stopped the shooter earlier on, but it would not have stopped him altogether.
Oh, and another thing: its scary enough mixing drunken college students with cars.. You sure you wanna add guns to that?

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(no subject) - [info]sinanju, 2007-04-17 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gremlinn.com, 2007-04-17 04:17 am UTC
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[info]po6om
2007-04-17 05:18 am UTC (link)
Хороший плакат. Олег, а есть где-нибудь некий сборник ваших плакатов? Может быть, слово "плакат" не совсем верно, но думаю, смысл вы поняли :)

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(no subject) - [info]olegvolk, 2007-04-17 05:21 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]olegvolk, 2007-04-17 05:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]olegvolk, 2007-04-17 06:00 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]olegvolk, 2007-04-17 06:15 am UTC
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(тупо) - [info]po6om, 2007-04-17 07:30 am UTC
Re: (тупо) - [info]gremlinn.com, 2007-04-17 07:31 am UTC
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Re: (тупо) - [info]gremlinn.com, 2007-04-19 08:14 am UTC
Re: (тупо) - [info]po6om, 2007-04-19 08:38 am UTC
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[info]ikilled007
2007-04-17 08:03 am UTC (link)
Item of Note: Whining anonymous pussies like the ones who took cheap shots at you in the replies to this post want us disarmed. Hmmm.

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(no subject) - [info]olegvolk, 2007-04-17 08:05 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2007-04-17 08:41 pm UTC (link)
isnt it possible that this could lead to more shootings though? i believe that that would promote the anger amongst the students and probably just lead to more confrontation...right?


i could be wrong, but it seems to make sense.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-17 09:53 pm UTC

[info]marginaleye
2007-04-17 11:24 pm UTC (link)
There are only two "stable" options: (1) nobody is armed, or (2) everybody is armed. Since the United States can't wholeheartedly agree on option (1), and really make that stick, that just leaves option (2). People won't pull this kind of stupid crazy shit quite so often when any potential victim, however harmless-looking, might have the power to bring their spree to an abrupt and permanent end.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-18 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-18 12:55 am UTC
Oleg Volk = Patriot
(Anonymous)
2007-04-18 12:40 am UTC (link)
Go Oleg Go!

Its unfortunate that these idiots seem to think the natural right to self defense is a political platform you're somehow benefitting from by promoting :P

Maybe one day they'll wake up, or maybe they'll end up robbed with a doubletap to the head and never wake up. What will it take before these idiots realize what "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" means? You don't gotta carry a gun if you don't want to, but you better not tell me I don't have a right to defend myself with deadly force if necessary.

P.S. Anonymous anti-human rights activists, PLEASE try to debate the issue, we'd love to have a good laugh while you frantically spew an emotional tirade that defies and redefines "logic" as it goes along.

http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/4.0/GunFacts4-0-Screen.pdf

Get educated, and stop perpetuating ignorant stereotypes and myths.

"The cost of freedom is eternal vigilance"

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Re: Oleg Volk = Patriot - (Anonymous), 2007-04-18 12:59 am UTC
THE STUPIDITY OF A GUN BAN
(Anonymous)
2007-04-18 07:02 pm UTC (link)
YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON THE MONEY!! I WROTE THE SAME THING TO RUSH LIMBAUGH YESTERDAY. WHY DON'T THEY PUT UP SIGNS THAT SAY, "ATTENTION KILLERS...UNARMED SHEEP FOR THE TAKING. COME AND GET'EM!" IF I WAS PACKING AND SEATED IN THAT CLASS, I WOULD HAVE PUT A BULLET THROUGH THAT BASTARD'S HEAD AFTER THE FIRST SHOT. THESE LIBERALS ARE BEYOND STUPID, AND THEY ARE VERY DANGEROUS.

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