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Thu, Jan. 3rd, 2013, 07:03 pm
Why does anyone even take these fiends seriously?

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Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:27 am (UTC)
celandine13

Oh, I hate it when people do that.

Safety isn't that hard! And it's life and death! Would you drive drunk?

Of course you're going to assume nobody can be trusted if you're so far from reliable yourself.

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:51 am (UTC)
dd_b

Having shared this on Facebook, it occurs to me that I'm now going to get in trouble for your use of "retard". People with children with mental challenges get kind of tetchy about using the terms often applied to their kids as generalized insults; it's kind of personal. Simply using "stupid" is much less fraught.

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:52 am (UTC)
olegvolk

Isn't the difference between "stupid" and "retarded" merely a matter of degree?

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 02:00 am (UTC)
exvapi

Stupid is a chosen (or imposed) state of mind. Retarded is a physical condition that the person had no control over, they were born with it.

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 02:41 am (UTC)
dd_b

One is a modern, fairly generic, insult; the other is an old technical term repurposed as modern severe insult, which is commonly used thoughtlessly. Clearly it's all a question of how people choose to take things, but there does seem to be a VERY strong sentiment against use of "retard" (which is much more slangy).

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 02:25 am (UTC)
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Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 03:45 am (UTC)
signamax

forgive my ignorance

is it legal to have a gun like this, with such magazine attached, with safety OFF in public place in California for a person without a permit?

i know that it is not safe
i am just curious how legal it is

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:56 pm (UTC)
jordan179

She's assuming that she's above the law and what she's doing is just fine because she's wielding the gun to make a point. Which makes her in point of fact a terrorist, but she'll get away with it because nobody's going to impeach her over this (as a Senator, this would be necessary to prosecute).

The stupidity factor is that the laws of physics and in particular chemistry and mechanics don't give a damn about her political office: if her aides accidentally put a loaded drum onto that weapon, all it would take would be a twitch for her to spray fire into the audience. There's a reason why one should always assume a firearm is loaded and ready to fire, and hence never point one save at someone which it wouldn't be too much of a tragedy for oneself to actually shoot.

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 03:30 pm (UTC)
signamax

thank you
it is not what i asked
i simply asked - is it legal?

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:10 pm (UTC)
mortus_36

"И эти люди запрещают мне ковырятся в носу" (с)

Edited at 2013-01-04 01:10 pm (UTC)

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 01:55 pm (UTC)
kosenko_danila

Это знают даже дети(с) :)

Fri, Jan. 4th, 2013 07:57 pm (UTC)
hippie_mamabear

Uuuuugggh this kind of thing enrages me. People who don't know what they're talking about shouldn't be allowed to talk. People who can't grasp the basics of gun safety should not be allowed to hold one. People who don't know what they're talking about AND don't know how to present it safely should be booed out of existence.

Very cute pic of the kid, btw. Always good to see young ones upstaging and outwitting adults.

To the lady on the right, i can only groan in my crowd voice: "MOOOORON!"

Sat, Jan. 5th, 2013 02:42 am (UTC)
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Sun, Jan. 6th, 2013 07:28 pm (UTC)
Vadim Ivanov

Очередной range-ism. Если чел точно знает, что оружие не заряжено, может держать его как угодно. Например, для фотографирования - почему бы и нет?

Sun, Jan. 6th, 2013 07:45 pm (UTC)
kajibtep_l

Не имеет он права держать его как угодно. С оружием всегда надо обращаться, как с заряженным, даже если оно разряжено. Это техника безопасности, она на уровне рефлексов, и тот, кто с незаряженным так обращается, так же обращается и с заряженным.

Mon, Jan. 7th, 2013 04:53 am (UTC)
Vadim Ivanov

Я же и говорю, типичное тэбэшное задротство.

Mon, Jan. 7th, 2013 04:55 am (UTC)
olegvolk

Кому так, а кому "культура обращения".

Mon, Jan. 7th, 2013 05:57 am (UTC)
kajibtep_l

Ну для того, кто с оружием "не на ты", это, может, и задротство...

Mon, Jan. 7th, 2013 04:23 pm (UTC)
Vadim Ivanov

Это подмена понятий.
Я сам соблюдаю ТБ, если оружие заряжено. Если проверил, что разряжено, то можно и попозировать, пофотать. Проверка, разряжено или нет, вбита на уровень рефлекса. У меня стаж владения огнестрелом - 6 лет, в доме 4 агрегата, и ни одного инцидента.

Mon, Jan. 7th, 2013 04:30 pm (UTC)
kajibtep_l

Здесь нет никакой подмены понятий.
Зачем фоткаться обязательно с пальцем на СК и с выключенным предохранителем - я не пойму никогда. Возможно, в этом есть какой-то сакральный смысл - но я его никогда не постигну, это точно.

ЗЫ: я не хотел бы с вами на коллективной охоте оказаться, или на стрельбище там, в тире... Не обижайтесь - но я дорожу своей жизнью и здоровьем. Правила ТБ кровью написаны, и я не хотел бы, чтобы первую строчку этих правил подновили за мой счёт.

Sat, Jan. 12th, 2013 04:41 am (UTC)
Vadim Ivanov

Зачем фоткаться так? Потому что с пальцем на спуске, со снятым предохранителем - это наиболее... как бы это сказать... гармоничное сочетание оружия и стрелка, самая естественная комбинация. Здесь нет сакрального смысла, ну, по крайней мере для меня. Просто наиболее естественно.

Я бы тоже не хотел оказаться с вами на охоте. Большинство людей, готовых разбить лоб, молясь на ТБ, как правило, особым опытом обращения с оружием не обладают - иначе бы понимали, что обращение с заряженым и разряженным оружием кардинально различается. Достаточно посмотреть в патронник. Все же, кто со мной был на стрельбище (на охоту я не хожу - зверей жалко), никогда не пожалели. Никаких инцидентов не было.

Sun, Jan. 6th, 2013 08:35 pm (UTC)
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Thu, Jan. 10th, 2013 03:54 pm (UTC)
psihspaarnis

There is no controversy.
On the left, is a person who thinks shooting is fun.
On the right is a person who declares that guns are for killing (I insist on :"declares", since it's politics and what she actually thinks may never surface, while public position will change in either way that promises more votes).
So both sides act accordingly.

Fri, Jan. 11th, 2013 06:32 am (UTC)
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