Have to agree with both the above comments. I no longer think logical argument has any point. We are outnumbered by the Anti's. And every excellent, reasoned, well thought out piece on why gun control is a good idea I've seen is just preaching to the choir. Almost without exception, they're being posted ON pro-gun pages By Pro gun friends, TO other pro gun people!! The people who NEED to see the pieces neither read, nor CARE to read these pages. I have tried. I have gone the whole "Look, just read this article, it will only take a few minutes, it explains my views better than i ever could" To Liberal friends. The response is invariably either, 1. "Your HOBBY is NOT more important than the lives of children!!!" 2. "It's obvious that people who own guns can't be trusted to keep them out of the hands of bad people, so NO ONE should have them" or 3. "The second amendment was about being part of the national guard, ONLY the army should have those assault rifles, I Guess it it's ok for you to have a hunting rifle, but those assault rifles are too dangerous for people to own" There are riffs and variations on this, but the arguments are basically the same. Logic is pointless. Our opposition doesn't use or believe in it.