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Thu, Nov. 8th, 2012, 11:38 pm
Defensive Voting.

Originally published at VolkStudio Blog. You can comment here or there.

Two-party system pretty much guarantees defensive voting by informed people. Most Republicans I know hold their noses when voting got GOP. The most common positive view of McCain I heard was “He’s old, maybe he’ll die soon after the election.” Others merely thought he was less horrible than Obama, not much of an endorsement.

I suspect that plenty of well-informed voters consider a Republican president to be a greater threat. Economic reasons aside, let’s talk about privacy. While Roe-vs-Wade is an established legal precedent for personal privacy, we do have a government that violates everybody’s financial and personal privacy routinely in pursuit of the “war on drugs”. We also have a government that’s entirely willing to murder people over a couple hundred dollars of tax revenue. As John Ross pointed out, the kind of draconian enforcement necessary to effectively restrict abortions would make the USSR look benign by comparison.

So, on the one hand, we had an authoritarian socialist representing a party that is perceived as anti-gay (the vocal opponents of equitable legal treatment of gays basically tarred the rest with guilt by association) and anti-privacy (via repeal or blocking of Roe-vs-Wade). On the other hand, we have an authoritarian socialist anti-gun party with an even more harmful economic program than the first, but with less manifested intent to mistreate certain segments of the population. Those segments, along with their friends and family, might view that alternative as less immediately harmful. Most people are offended by the government efforts to stick their noses into private gun safes. How do you think people feel about equally official efforts to pry into their wombs or sniffing up their asses? And I speak in generalities here, as some members of each party would not fit the typical molds.

I view Republicans as a lesser threat: I feel that I am more likely to have necessary funds and guns with them in control of government. With lawyers, guns and money, I can resist their other bright ideas. Other people feel that Democrats are a lesser threat because of the above-mentioned factors. I can’t think of anyone from my social circle who have any enthusiasm for either, but most hold their nose and vote for the less aggressive evil as perceived at the time.  That’s were this concept of a “left libertarian” comes from — someone who agrees with me on pretty much everything but gives different weight to specific concerns.

In the end, Democrats will probably continue to run around screaming for gun control and punitive taxes against anyone not on welfare, and the Republicans will shove their pet religion where it doesn’t belong, with armed enforcers of virtue jackbooting around. And the Libertarians will continue to have the organizational capabilities of autistic cats, getting the same 1% in every election.

Fri, Nov. 9th, 2012 06:12 am (UTC)
(Anonymous)

The sad thing is that most informed Americans voting for the current bunch of Democrats in power are seeking to contain Republican authoritarians by inviting actual totalitarians. So we are going to watch what I can only call the "legitimate rape of the Constitution & the Bill of Rights" for the next four years - including the unfortunately upcoming SCOTUS appointments. The reason is, few Americans can tell a totalitarian from an authoritarian, and this is going to cost us dearly.

Fri, Nov. 9th, 2012 03:07 pm (UTC)
(Anonymous)

I had a coworker that told me he voted for Barack Hussein Obama. I asked him if someone was blackmailing him because he is normally very anti-Obama. In summary he stated that "America is going to sink regardless of who I vote for, and I want to be young and able enough to survive when it does. Obama will just speed up the process"

I promptly told him he was crazy, and to not hasten the day... But I'm beginning to think differently.

Fri, Nov. 9th, 2012 06:17 pm (UTC)
crazychicknlady

"And the Libertarians will continue to have the organizational capabilities of autistic cats, getting the same 1% in every election."

Snerk. Not just herding cats, but autistic cats. I love this line.

Sat, Nov. 10th, 2012 08:18 pm (UTC)
old_sam

Unfortunately, the Libertarian PArty is the contradiction in the definition. I don't know a way around it.

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Cohen the Barbarian

Sat, Nov. 10th, 2012 02:16 am (UTC)
ilcylic

Meow! Meow meow meow!

:D

*sigh*

Sat, Nov. 10th, 2012 08:13 pm (UTC)
old_sam

I wish a "Party Of Personal Freedom And Economical Renaissance" would be created. I'd join in a heartbeat! Oleg, слабО такое zamutit'?

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Cohen the Barbarian

Sun, Nov. 11th, 2012 01:43 am (UTC)
old_sam

BTW, did anyone notice that voting basically got divided by the racial lines more than by the cultural lines. Some 70%+ of whites voted for Romney and ~100% of blacks and 70%+ voted for Obama. Aren't we seeing Helter-Skelter in action?

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Cohen the Barbarian

Tue, Nov. 13th, 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
darxus

Free State Project.